The word Amish and the Amish way of life have a very particular and defined meaning. To try to use the word “Amish” as a way of describing a very different way of life not only leads to deep cultural misunderstandings, but it is also remarkably impolite. A great deal of an Amish person’s life is based on the Bible. If a person decides to not follow those teachings, eventually they will be asked to leave, and the community will no longer consider them as friends or family. The Bible, and God, and a moral and decent life are inextricably linked. To be Amish, is to accept that.
Trying to use the way they dress, or the machines they use or don’t use, or their willingness to work together for the good of all, as an example for how an “english” (non-Amish) community can be formed does not understand what being Amish is.
So please, if you want to live a plain life, or use only horse power, or collectively work, then just say so. But it would be very nice to stop trying to label those life choices as similar to a very defined life that has so much more meaning and depth.
Jim
Stone Garden Farm & Village
That’s why we mention Similar things some of them do like off grid, no sell phones/tech stuff, cars/petroleum based fuels, minimalist, not following mainstream etc! But without using the bible. We say LIKE ‘Amish’ in those ways, but not ‘Amish’ overall, like their main relijious view ! How do people get offended by this? Beyond comprehension.
it’s not just ‘amish’ but any of the anabaptist communities like mennonites, or others that live similiar, but without the false relijious dogma, and instead using good morals and the power of divine good within as reason and guide
Saying “LIKE” something, is not “something”. Please try to describe what it is you want to be by whatever words and phrases you wish. But “LIKE” Amish means nothing. It just fosters false impressions of whatever it is you are seeking. ~~~Without The Bible, there is no Amish. It’s a bit like saying, I’m of German descent, but now I’ll wear the trappings of a Lakota, and maybe ride a horse. "Now I’m (LIKE) Indian. You want to live as an ancestral person, do so, say so. It’s just as impolite as a non-Original Person to claim you want to live as an indian, as it is for a non-Believing, hippie boy to claim to live as Amish. ~~To use your words, it’s “beyond comprehension” that when asked to be polite, that a person continue to insist on being impolite.
P.S. By the way, just for a bit more understanding. The Amish whom I know in N. Ohio, and my own Amish family, do not forego the use of gas and oil nor would they describe themselves as “minimalist”. And they certainly would not describe their beliefs as “not following the mainstream”. -And actually, many Amish now carry cell phones (for work purposes).
Respectfully & kindfully; to be Amish (within mine understandings) is to keep and hold elder Germanic ways of life fore electronics of technology abound. To do so, regardless of country/nation would be to adapt to the land adopted; obvious modifications to yiz’/your needs & layments of lands. To follow the Christian (as they be) Bible to its entirety would (as many of us believe) be blasphemy - only for the contradictions & falsalities/falsified 'countanences abound. Why for merciful and forgiving if to decimate cities & communities? Be yi smited for murdering another, or be yi disscussed to as why yi be swayed/possesed to? Be yi removed of limb for klepting, or beseaching truer reasons beyond understandings…? The Catholic Church also excommunicates for reasons our Biune/Triune noth - why for sacrificial of to disrespect the communities anyway… Why darn with blessed blood if to be repremanded for the same thing another time whence…? Why be punishing of worshipers if to smite/murder them & curse of damnation…? Why adorn in blessings & miracles if to saturate in false senses of securities…?
To force/ them into utilizing technologies (noth excluding lyingbto them about vehicles containing computers) & the nanobots we consume within our foods is obviously and definitely insulting & abusive to cultures. Almost of their ways of life is also based on life experiences whence foremothers and forefathers; as other many Christians (and of worships) religion/worship be the biggest of their ways of life foundations. To banish & abandon, for to force upon a whole; manipulation & control be fester & undesired fluid. If your loved/cared be criminally saturated, abandon & ignorance be the solutions…? Youre giving up on pieces of self & structural integrity crumble afall. If to be Amish is to accept disrespectful communities, they can stay where they dwell; if be need of help, hopefully proper crewment be in their needs.
If to utilze their tog materials & elder machineries would only utilize our rooted technologies & keep us prepaired when/if we hath to rely on them again - nonelectrical petal sewing machines still work & either circulated or in another’s storage - fabrics be sold by ft & yds, noth exactly expensive. Threadding noth of desire? Tensil noth as taught? Fishing lines; 50+ lbs of test with the right patrerns/designs could hold more than 100lbs (physics + engineering + artistical inspirations) - tougher materials could insite/intice use of nano parachord. Many farmers stll hath elder plows to be pulled by larger livestock/companions; continuously maintaind </>100 years. Broken farm plow? Artistics & engendering be your companions.
Labels be needed; labels be helpful. Going into the literal; yi’d want to knownif that jar in the rootcellar be of pickeled beets or eggplant. If that cheese in wax be of cheddar, or colby. Yi’d want to know if that noth clear bottle/vial be of lavendar or blueberry calming concoction. Going to the conversational essentials; be ye a farmer, seamstress, mechanic, fauna cultivator, traveling barterer, fauna hair trimmer (ha. ha.), any other type[s] of an artistical creature? Many labels are necessary for theyre helpful; I’m refraining from the facetiouses. Labels noth needed be of unnecessary disrespects; the rhyming nonexistent 'igger words, nonexistant term for female dog, nonexistant term of 'uck (falsely identified for penetration and structurally unintegrally else expreed/expressed), the sexist terms that degrade multiple sexes, “gender”, & etc… Being for communities, why doth we allow others to be disrespected falsely claiming “its noth mine busines” when your loved/cared could be the assaulted…? The comic strip where a young lady sitting in ther dwelling whilst her neighbours are unnecessarily abused/assaulted & removed from their dwellings, continously expree/expressing “It’s ok, it’s noth me” to be her another day to cry for help. Strongly follows the multiple golden rules of worships and cultures & the XIV Dali Lama’s (y sound for llama; otherwise disrespect) quote about religion being a way of self control and noth a control of others, yet defention also if against themselves - yet still parallel with mentioned rules. If we stop labeling any/everything, comparison structures lose integrity as educations deemed unnecessity. To remove every lable would to remove safeties & securities (the literals, difined, facetious, self, & etc…). What be shoes? Sorry Shakespeare, that word had its run, we needeth our bedrooms nevermore (noth real atributions to Poe, yet - !) Foods be lushious, foods delicious; unlabel mine nourishments, be ther many an uncontentment…
If we noth knoweth what being Amish is/means, its because they’re that seclusive/reclusive we noth interact with, or other [in]appropriate ignorances. We needn’t be Amish to live what be dedined for community any plain ways of life. Goth & SteamPunk communities hath plain ways of life that intertwine with each & still tend to clash about; whilst hath ways to interact another day without needeth of abandonments. Noth saying thier ways of life be betterments, for coal deteriorates the environment - yet many say multiple plowing too. They noth knoweth many of our ways of “plain”/complexed livings, yet we bash & against crass each when noth of wisements & be of ignorance. Thank yiz in advance. God[s] bless/speed!!
Respectfully & kindfully; sell be to reword of cell & cellphone; religion noth spelled by j. There’s likely many views and differences to the Gemanic-British (English) Amish than thousands of years ago and how defined/identified present. If to talk a many thing, those whom be innsuch deep knowledges could take defense rather than offense; many of us whom be packrats falsely accused of being hoarders. We know how to clean & rid unwanteds - to rid of what we set aside for artistics could take away from own needs for any project (American Pickers would be a good example of whom your collectors &/or packrats be); sentimental & personal values tend to get in the ways (mentioned multiple times innthe series, & they do their best to be respectful; o can relate to being destracted by any identefier of shiney). Empaths tend to be better; for to bettement identify defese &/or offense, listen inside & observe their energy (difficult, yet still possible through technologies). The flow of their conversations (body language readings be inaccuracies), the adornmantes of exprees/expressions (look beyond the contradiction artistically within your soul), tones of fluctuations & tensions be. Saying your living an Amish life, within their cultures would need be saying you’re living an Asian life (in Asia, the [great]gradnparents and the parents fromnthe wife’s side live in the same home & only can hath two children betwixt married couples - noth aware of many changes onnthe last score & ½ years); Amishish, or Asianish would be more accurate with explanations with fewer risks of disrespect. If noth of process towards living Amishly, you’re noth honestly (culturally) allowed to claim. To continue such disrespects would only crumble your own cultures & traditions.
Comprehension, tempermetion; education, or complation/complacency? Abroad adorn your educational corn, teach amongst others is to keep student self studious self. To nevermore own studentry be to saturated and blinded by ignorance unbeneficial. To learn is to survive, to educate is to thrive, to predicate is to structuralize and hold fastly integral & defend [self]respect. To accomplicize & [illfully) accessorize be to tarnish rules of golden & crush respects & integrities.
Looking into Shakespeare’s plays, the adventurer noth wanteth severed Gorgon of head, noth only tactile, took his time and calculated with reluctances. & quest completed, he threw her head at others’ feet. Monsters only be of behavior & of attitude, noth of figurements & however tog adornments. To call another a monster wothout addressing their interactions is to call self. To use the “eye of the beholder” yet to hold it to “monster” is dimimishing the reasoning for even if compliment/respect. Thank yiz in advance. God[s] bless/speed!!
Cavemen & Neanderthals aren’t humanlike either? They are humanoids; nekos are human likes - we hath plant genes in our DNAs (example being the youngman (likley Rest In Peace) in the Middle East whom turned into mostly a tree). Something like something is a simile, or it isn’t anything of it at all. Taking away from likenesses isnt justice adorning to the original & others; “I want to be like ____” is just as accurate as this is [description]-like. For us to better understand what yi mean by “like noth = something”, please explain for clearity be better variety. [quote=“StoneGardenFarm, post:4, topic:3777”] “LIKE” Amish means nothing. [/quote] is the same as “I’m like a farmer because I hath many varieties of gardens about” & telling them they’re noth by negating their artistics flourishments. The Amish would still exist without the Bible; as I play the [theoretical] alternates cards. [quote=“StoneGardenFarm, post:4, topic:3777”]
I’ll wear the trappings of a Lakota, and maybe ride a horse. "Now I’m (LIKE) Indian.
[/quote] is extremely inaccurate & likely disrespecting many Native Tribes (noth excluding North America). Any can [respectfully] dress as artistcally, yet noth accurately claim to be Indian/Tribal like yet to dress like such hath more accuracy. A Hippy would likely hath more success living as the Amish than a city dweller; the Tribal ways of living (still active mostly in other countries/nations) are “barbaric”, “uncivil”, [nigh] hippy, & unconformative. Politness in conversations as such is almost like hath conversations at least on the boarders of politics. Comprehensions are wrapped in ignorance until yi[z] find out neath the surfaces; they could cause tears, gay (true definitions be of emotions), angers, confusions, & hopefully inspirations and inquizitries.
It’s extremely difficult to live as we did hundres and thousands of years ago, unless we can find ways to locate desired areas, noth excluding traveling space in generation ships (practicing energy conservations & attempt native/tribal practices (we hath the knowledges, were manipulated to forget & abandon (example being the true identification of the Union Jack & whence)). The Amish & Quakers might noth be able to join us, unless yiz’re able to find those whom strayed during/aft Rumspringa. They can still teach us, and keep in practice, of maintenance betterments, as well as the Natives/Tribals of how to utilize entireities effectively & affectively. Your response is more sound for responses, yet adorned with chincs, being of above identified. Thank yiz in advance. God[s] bless/speed!!
we are refering to the living more natural lifestyle obviously! without most modern things like wifi, sell phones, and other wastefull stuff
" Without most modern things, …"
That’s an interesting statement. And perhaps something that many communities might think about. ~Did you know that in the time period that cars were being invented, they were thought to be one of the greatest health inventions of all time. When we were just using horses and wagons, the cities were littered with horse droppings. Which were in turn covered with flies. That carried disease into every window and home. And, the cities just smelled terrible. Cars, a very modern thing indeed, solved much of that.
Also, many homes and barns burned from the careless use of oil & kerosene lamps. And the worldwide population of whales was decimated just to get whale oil for lighting. The modern invention of electricity solved much of those two terrible problems.
When I was younger, I knew very few farmers who were not missing a finger or two, or a hand or arm. Farming is one of the most dangerous of all professions. But these days, modern safety devices on most farm equipment have lessened the risk.
The list of how much safer and better and more convenient life is with so many modern inventions, is endless. ~~None of which is to say that there haven’t also been real, unforeseen and harmful consequences to much of the same ‘good stuff’.
So, far beyond the misuse and lack of understanding of what the Amish do and how they live, it may also be well to really think about just how primitive or ancestral a person or community wants to live. Some modern things can be very good. Some, not. Trying to live exclusively as folks did 100+ years ago can mean an average life span of 45. But it can sometimes mean a much more satisfying life than sitting at a computer. Modern and “natural lifestyle” can be a very mixed pot.
Clean manure is not bad. i’m sure the horses weren’t being fed gmo/korporat/kemical food lol.
better then rivers, oceans, earth being littered with sewage and chemicals all over from overpopulation, factories, farms, huge sities etc.
you think the pyramids were build with ropes and pulleys, and kopper chizzles ? lol. look into that. there is supernatural, klean, non toxic energy and teknology that is being hidden and s uppressed by the greed banking kabal. it’s within those who seek it